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France escape defeat in Romania

Saturday 11 October 2008

France return from Romania with a precious point after a 2-2 draw in a crucial Group 7 qualifier for the 2010 World Cup. Goals by Franck Ribery and Yoann Gourcuff (photo) helped France level the score after the home side raced ahead to a 2-0 lead.

Saturday 11 October 2008

The future of France coach Raymond Domenech was left hanging in the balance on Saturday after a spirited Romania took a share of the spoils in a 2-2 draw with the 1998 World Cup winners.

Florentin Petre and Dorin Goian scored a goal apiece in a dominant first half to leave the hosts with the advantage after Franck Ribery had managed to claw a goal back for 'Les Bleus' in the 36th minute.

It took until the 69th minute for France to draw level thanks to a stunning drive from Yoann Gourcuff, who chose arguably the best time to score his maiden international goal with a stunning 30-yarder.

Barcelona forward Thierry Henry and Bayern Munich striker Franck Ribery both spurned chances late in the second half, during which France appeared to find their rhythm after a conspicuously shaky first half.

But on the face of their much stronger performance, Romania were unlucky not to steal all three points.

After picking up a point each, the result will do little to boost the group hopes of either team. France and Romania both now have a paltry four points from three games.

Domenech's future as coach of the 1998 World Cup winners has been in doubt since France exited this summer's European Championships after the first round.

Calls for his head to roll gathered pace after France were stunned 3-1 by Austria in their opening World Cup qualifier, and the were maintained despite a 2-1 home defeat of Serbia.

Prior to this match the general feeling on Domenech's future as coach was unequivocal: win, or else.

But it took only five minutes, and some slack defending, for Romania to throw a spanner into the works.

Domenech must have been wondering what was going on as Petre, left on his own just outside the penalty area, went unchallenged and met a cross that he drove past France keeper Steve Mandanda.

Barely 10 minutes had passed before Goian handed the hosts a 2-0 lead after he rose beyond France defender Jean-Alain Boumsong to head a Petre corner past the beaten Mandanda.

Bayern Munich striker Ribery managed to limit the damage, firing home a perfectly-weigted shot from a pass by Yoann Gourcuff.

Domenech and his Romanian counterpart Victor Peturca made no changes for the second half, in which France appeared to finally find their feet.

Nevertheless it took until the 69th minute for Les Bleus to put themselves within sight of a win, and they did so in style.

This time Ribery turned provider for Gourcuff, who turned his marker superbly before unleashing an unbeatable dipping drive from near on 30 yards.


 

  • 20/10/2008 06:52:50 Alert a moderator

    Is it to be France or North Africa?

    As an American, what I'd really like to know is whether or not the so called "French" believe in blood and soil, or if they've given in to bedeviled social scientists ushering in "the end of the world as we know it?" The French must attempt some self preservation here and ask themselves whether or not they wish to exist, or be crushed underfoot by an unstoppable wave of peoples from North Africa and the Middle East. To do so is not racist, rather it is survivalist. Do you want to live or die; that may make it more plain for you. Booing the French national anthem is only the very beginning of what will be your undoing. That's okay though, California will be happy to take you in, we love French cuisine out here. So when France becomes just another slum provence of some despotic Islamic country from whom my country buys its oil, we'll welcome you to our yankee subculture, it isn't so bad really.

    Jeremy

  • 20/10/2008 02:24:34 Alert a moderator

    The booing of 'La Marseillaise' not at all funny

    While it is very rude for anyone to boo a National Anthem, it is not a hard and fast rule to expect that everyone thinks the same.

    In Canada, one hears how the Quebecois/Quebecoise quite often boo the National Anthem O Canada, because being separatists they do not accept it as their National Anthem. Of course that also applies to the Canadian Maple Leaf flag that has been desecrated time and time again by separatists in Quebec, who at times have torn or trampled upon it in disrespect. So, depending on the society one lives in, one should expect anything. While I am not condoning this sacrilege, I have realized that some people have no class at all.

    Canada ha its deadbeats in the separatists, just as France has in these rowdy hooligans that boo the National Anthem.

  • 18/10/2008 15:28:13 Alert a moderator

    Racist

    My wife"who is French" says the Arabs have a right to be racists,but the French dont have the right to be racists,and from what ive seen,I think she is right

  • 17/10/2008 19:49:35 Alert a moderator

    Marseillaise

    Sadly this kind of behaviour has been common in the UK for years and is not restricted to National Anthems either and to find it has spread across the channel is indeed a reason for shame.

    I have the honour to be married to a French woman, 90% of my 'family' are now French and in a curious way (for a Briton) I feel more French than English. I love to hear the Marseillaise and turn the sound up full blast at the start of any sporting event which features a French team; it is an action that is not readily appreciated by my neighbours. And why? Because the Marseillaise is probably the most inspiring and joyous celebration of nationhood ever written.

    To confuse the vaguaries of sporting achievement (or lack of it) with the respect the anthem calls for deserves condemnation of whichever group the insult emanates from. It is simply unacceptable and I am so pleased to see the Government response.

  • 17/10/2008 06:32:25 Alert a moderator

    Booing the national anthem

    I think its very wrong and disrespectful to boo your national anthem. People need to respect their national anthem in their own country.
    Just 'cause you have complaints about discrimination, etc doesnot mean you go about disrespecting your national anthem.
    These people need to get out of France if they cannot even respect (their!! own) national anthem.

  • 17/10/2008 02:04:13 Alert a moderator

    Hostile crowd

    As someone who attended the match, I can say that the outrageous behavior did not stop with the booing of the Marseillaise. The crowd (70% supporting Tunisia) was downright malicious to the French players for the entire first half. I have never before seen a team playing on its home turf have to deal with such a hostile reception. I can say that halting the game would not have been an extreme response. The Tunisian fans were a complete embarrassment to the game and to their ancestral country.

  • 16/10/2008 00:04:27 Alert a moderator

    Is a national anthem just another religious symbol?

    It is sad to see the politicians involved in a discussion that should be made without populist intentions. I think that a national anthem should not be protected from being whistled by the law. Just ignore the people that did that or think about their problems. Any claim to exile a person (even inmigrants) just for criticise the goverment using their freedom of speech is just pure fascim. The goverment is not an inquisitor in charge of protecting its own religious symbols. I would be more worried about the danger of physical violence.

  • 16/10/2008 22:15:10 Alert a moderator

    Booing the Anthem

    Learn to sing the Marseillaise in Arabic.

  • 16/10/2008 19:43:38 Alert a moderator

    The Marseillaise

    The Marseillaise is an homage to the people of France and represents the pride, hope. and dreams of a nation. It's sad that some people are too ignorant to respect that fact even if they disagree with the French culture. Perhaps something should be written on those tickets and on billboards prior to these events to indicate whatever sanctions will be imposed (are deemed legal in France) if anyone has over-stepped their boundaries regarding inappropriate behavior. That way everybody will have been warned and there will be no excuses regarding what is expected of the fans.

  • 16/10/2008 17:56:39 Alert a moderator

    The French Muslims Hate France

    They always complain about Parisians being "rude" in America.
    But when I went to Paris
    I found the opposite to be true,
    except for the foreigners living in France.
    They hated the French, they hated us Americans
    and even more then the hated us Americans and the French
    they hated Parisians the most.
    strange but true...
    Paris has real problems with intergrating the foriegn Muslims.

    I remember chasing this "muslim guy"
    up the Avenue des Champs- Élysées
    for throwing his garbage on the street
    in front of my own eyes.

    He was scared I was going to put a beating on him.
    (and he should be, because it did cross my mind)
    but I was yelling at the dude
    "What's wrong with you man?
    Come back here an pick your garbage up
    you hillbilly slob!"

    I should have caught up with him
    but mommy and baby were not too happy with me
    chasing this cat up the Avenue des Champs- Élysées over garbage,
    So I had to back off.

    But if I was by myself?
    I would have physically drag him back.
    and made him pick up his garbage.

    Paris isn't the cess pool for Muslim dissidents and
    the "Déclaration des Droits de l'Homme et du Citoyen" is not a suicide pact.

    good luck Paris

  • 16/10/2008 15:15:52 Alert a moderator

    THINK A LITTLE BIT

    First of all I would like to make clear that I do not support or applaud the booing of any national anthem. It's a symbol and should be treated with respect. But when I read some comments like “Anyone who boos the Marseillaise just should not be in France. We never asked them to come!” I feel outerly disgusted. You forget apparently that YOU FRENCH brought these people from your former colonies to build back France after the Second World War. And let's not forget the colonisation of Maghreb and the sub-saharan countries from the French. How many people were killed, tortured, disgraced during the dark years of colonisation. What France is now, she owes it to these countries and its people. The exploitation of the riches of these countries and their people, which goes on till today, has made France the big power that she is today. And all of you who live in the US and speak from a "safe distance", just remember what your country, or your country of origin, has caused to these people, how it is treating them today, and then maybe you would decide not to post the utter nonsence that you have. Thank you all for your time.

  • 16/10/2008 14:02:44 Alert a moderator

    Some details

    I have read numerous articles about what happenned during this match but all of them always forget how the FFF (Fédération Française de Football, French Association of Soccer) did a lot of effort for this match. The teams enter in the pitch mixed up! and not the tunisian from one side and the french from another. Each french hold the hand of a young guy wearing the jersey of Tunisia and so on... What do they have to do?!?
    I am astonished that it didn't matter to them and booed the anthem...
    Something should be done because it's not the first time, during the return matches against italy... The French didn't booed the italian anthem in Paris, but they did in Rome. And I'm not talking about Portugal, Marocco and Algeria. Their reasons are ridiculus and, even if I do agree that France should accept its past mistakes, this was a shame!

  • 16/10/2008 13:26:49 Alert a moderator

    Boos to the French anthem

    As a tourist I have seen the sane thing in my own country and think it is a healthy sign of freedon of expression. Do politicians really think they can control different views being openly stated? It seems the interpretation varies depending whether you think it is anti-French or an expression of frustration.

  • 16/10/2008 13:07:06 Alert a moderator

    Jeering the French anthem: who are the 'bad Frenchmen'?

    Although I find booing an anthem stupid and despicable, I cannot help thinking that the recent manifestations of a revival of 'traditional values' such as nationalism or religious fervour are not all positive. All this rings disquieting bells, that politicians, and not just the radical ones, are using increasingly. Old people like me know all too well where nationalism invariably leads.
    What the recent financial crisis has demonstrated is that Europe is but a façade, and that nationalistic and protectionist 'reflexes' are quick to re-surface.
    And to end with, a small question for you: is it worse to jeer the national anthem or to leave the country to evade the taxes that citizens pay for the common good? I wonder who should be deprived of their citizens' rights...perhaps both categories, since they both despise and abuse their country...

  • 16/10/2008 13:03:55 Alert a moderator

    It cannot be accepted

    Such a behavior cannot be accepted, period. It's an anthem, it's a symbol, it's values: something you respect even if you don't believe in it. What's the use of all those talks about tolerance if giving importance to a flag, an anthem is considered "fascism" ? Booing the Marseillaise or any anthem is like spitting on a flag, it's an insult and a flagrant lack of education.
    comparing the game to a fight between your father and your mother might be a good comparison but I'm surprized: it seems to me that I wouldn't spit on any of them... Even if there was one I don't like, I would at least respect both.

    And what about that : “These are people whose voice is never heard, except once every three years at a football game. They feel the need to speak out.” To say what ? does anyone understand what they wanted to say ? Why can't they speak and discuss like the rest of us ? Does someone tell them to shut up or do they simply don't know how to properly talk ?

    Those acting in such a childish and irrespectuous way can only be seen as uneducated and brainless people. Most of them are not, I know that, so I hope they'll learn to speak respecting the conventions and most importantly, the others. Only then will they be heard, understood and treated accordingly.

  • 16/10/2008 05:23:31 Alert a moderator

    French Generosity

    it has been painful for me to watch my ancestral homeland fall victim to its own generosity. europeans across the globe have become afraid to stand up for themselves. the thugs who boo the french national anthem are not french. they spit on the country that provides free housing and medical care for them. the more that we put up with it, the more they will do it. i am pround to be french american and i am especially proud to see others like me on this site. all real americans know that the name of washington would be meaningless if not for king louis.

  • 16/10/2008 05:16:58 Alert a moderator

    reality

    You don't get to chose who you are, when or where you are born. People who accept things just because it's widely accepted are useless. More than 99.99999999% of the world is useless.

  • 15/10/2008 00:17:40 Alert a moderator

    Do not Dishonor the Integrity of France

    Do not Dishonor the Integrity of France

    I‘m a twenty year USAF fighter pilot who is embarrassed by these youth shouting their disrespect for the Marseillaise. Regardless of deep rivalry or intense feeling for competition, there should never be a time to dishonor your host, and disgrace the honor of a nation.

    I agree with the negative reaction to these youth as they don’t understand what, and who they’re offending. For two world wars France has stood as the first line of serious resistance to German aggression, the bodies of the French are spread across the continent while fighting for the basic freedom of mankind.

    Booing the Marseillaise dishonors the dead and the warriors past who apparently have more character and courage than the shouts of adolescence.

    I share the nation’s outrage, and maybe an old warrior from France can sit and explain it to them, if they have the humbleness to listen.

    Reid D. Reasor, Lt Col, USAF

  • 15/10/2008 20:58:02 Alert a moderator

    Les blues s'impose face à la Tunisie

    I really did not like the booing and the jeering ... but then again we'll always see this kinda stuff in the field ... remember what happened with PSG and the Banderole anti-chtis? ALL NONSENSE we should just let it go and play like pros... so at the end whooooooooooooo cares... France WON... the blues kicked some serious ass out there... Vive la France!

  • 15/10/2008 20:07:17 Alert a moderator

    soccer booing

    Unfortunately soccer fans are not known for their gentility anywhere in the world.
    The action of the fans is perhaps going to be the only public voice of their anger at other problems in life, maybe a way they know will be heard in the government.
    France is reknown for it's tolerance, there are far more important things for the government to be dealing with in these days.
    Knock it off, there will always be idiots and losers, the best way to deal with cat-calls is to ignore them and concentrate on fixing the pot-holes such as high immigrant unemployment.

  • 15/10/2008 19:07:51 Alert a moderator

    National Pride

    The recent bad behaviour at the Stade de France is perhaps a reason to discontinue all sporting events in an open public arena. The unsporting behaviour of the fans was disgusting. There is no excuse for that type of behaviour. Perhaps all events will need to be shown in a closed environment and televised. It would be a fitting punishment for those that do not know how to control their actions, but also sadly it would punish those that do know how to behave.

    For pity's sake it is a sporting event not a potlicial arena and statements such as "the western government bla blah blah" as referend in another comment have no place here. However since some feel it is necessary to place blame on "western governments", which frankly is a meaningless term, they better come up with some reason why "eastern, northern or southern" governments have shown themselves to be better. Lets not forget events in Tibet, Burma, Rwanda, Sudan, China, Georgia etc....

    Leave political histrionics at home and let fans enjoy sports and let fans show all players respect and let the fans shut up during the national anthem if they are going to be rude and insulting. It is good to show support for the teams, but a sign of stupidity when this support exceeds sporting behaviour.

  • 15/10/2008 19:01:21 Alert a moderator

    Vulgar and Disrespectful

    The whistling and jeering were unnecessary. Those who were jeering ought to have been silent and mindful of the respect that must be given to another country's national anthem. Moreover, they are residents of France and while there are many social/racial issues that they undoubtedly endure, the reality is that France offers them greater opportunity for progress than their home countries. As a daughter of immigrant parents, I am much more Mexican than American, but I recognize that our host country has given us much. They didn't have to sing along or even enjoy it, but they could have been silent.

  • 15/10/2008 18:16:39 Alert a moderator

    Shame on them

    All these insults make me even prouder to be French. M. President Sarkozy we are behind you!! Please sent all these gangsters to jail or expulse them from France if they do not like it here. Down with the cowards who rote our society. Vive la France forever!!!

  • 15/10/2008 17:41:39 Alert a moderator

    Booing

    how disgraceful! I am appalled and once again discouraged by the behavior of people who really ought to know better.

  • 15/10/2008 16:10:27 Alert a moderator

    Marseillaise Booing...

    Rudeness, absolute rudeness. Lack of civility at football matches appears to still be the fashion. La laicite was developed to protect the State and individual from dominational religious behavior which adversely effect the nation's political wellbeing. How and what policy can be developed which cultivates responsibility with those who are notoriously abusive of public freedom? Simultaneously, while this behavior is boorish, the seamy side of emerging nationalism and racism exhibited by those who seek refuge and opportunity within the borders of a country whose anthem they criticize, needs additional exposure, examination and response so that it disappears and becomes a trademark outside the borders by those who do not value civilization. My response is not an issue of reactive nationalism, it is a defense of law and self-determination of individuals who group together in order to form a dynamic and beneficial society.

  • 15/10/2008 14:32:21 Alert a moderator

    national pride

    Well what do you expect,western goverments have lost all moral creditability,a society brought up on a culture of garbagge ,garbagge becomes the culture.one just has to look at what its society is so engrossed in,it is the media morons subjecting the masses with irrelevant and ignorance.dont ask the young generation ,they just victims,ask you grandparents and older generation.,obivisouly present day goverments are devoid of this situation or just lacking intelligence.

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