The burqa, the law and other EU countries

The inappropriate tolerance given to this alien culture, (not truly a religious matter, although Islamic fundamentalists tend to get caught up in the politics of it), flies in the face of the general Britishers acceptability.
We don't want aliens coming into our territory dragging their desert practices along with them.

Whilst most in the UK will welcome aliens from many parts of the world into our community, we cannot comprehend the unwillingness of our legislature to address this thorny matter of inappropriate dress.

It's not just the coverall of the Burka etc, but also the flimsy useless dress of many of the menfolk, who parade a their original country.

This is made worse, when in the winter, in often sub zero temperatures, they can be seen along many around in dress suited only to the environments and temperatures of high street in flimsy cotton trews and jackets, which cannot possibly provide warmth to the body that is not of this climate.

Alongside this is the fact these people basically refuse to adopt the style of dress of their adopted country, so one must ask, if they cannot adapt and adopt, why are they here in the first place?

I am aware of the arguments regarding the welfare benefits they may get, but not all are work-shy, or deliberately unemployed, in fact many work very hard, hence drawing no benefits from the system, in this they contribute as they should, but even so, coming here should mean they fit in.
However, working or not, these aliens stick with their own and create isolated communities within our territory.

It has become so ingrained that much of the cities are now almost completely replications of down town Islamabad, or Lagos, et al.

It is this aspect of the much denigrated 'multi-cultural 'society that annoys and irritates.

The subject of objection to dress, is a side issue and the government seems hell bent on emphasising it, or at least allowing itself to be sidetracked by it.

It should be taking strict measures to tear down the cultural barriers erected by these immigrant communities, not tolerating their presence by casually casting aside the genuine and general complaints of the people it should be serving.

It comes across as bending over backwards to accommodate these aliens and their religio/cultural habits, often to the detriment of our own indigenous and those others who mix in, even if from exotic locations.

It quite seriously impacts on anyone with a tanned skin, as all get lumped together, unfairly, as being 'one of them'.

A typical example being that poor Indian young man, a student up in Salford, who was taken for 'one of them' and stabbed to death for no other reason than he was not white.

Unless the government commences to take the matter in hand, coincident with the wishes of the general population, and soon, there is very likely to be many more such incidents.
Brushing it aside is no way for a government to treat what the people see as a matter of urgency.

As an Australian living close to a large Arab community here in Sydney, I see a few women wearing the burqa. I think its wrong and affronting that they wear the full veil in public. What about public security? anyone, Man or Woman could use the burqa as a disguise for robbery or what ever? and then how can security cameras identify them?
Most women who wear these things tend to bring attention to themselves and stared at even more so then if they were only wearing a normal head scarf, therefore defeating the whole purpose of the intention of the Burqa. We can make up all sorts of crazy things to do in the name of religion. But if we choose to live a normal western society, then its only natural that we obey their current laws. Polygamy happens under the "religious banner" but we have chosen to make it illegal in our society. The prophet Mahammoud married his wife when she was only 9 years old. But that is now illegal in most societies. So i think their is no reason why the French Government cannot pass a law to make it illegal to cover up your face in public spaces.
I think the French President is doing the right thing. I only wish our Government here in Australia would do the same thing.

Wayne

Why do these people come to the West if they don't want to embrasse our culture, our way of life?
An ulterior motive perhaps?

Last year majority of voters that participated in a referendum in Switzerland to ban minarets expressed their understanding about democracy – they associated a marginal topic (less than 10 buildings) of architectonic diversity, city-panning with the risk emerging from a religious fundamentalism.
For some time people in France and in other countries discuss what and how should be dressed those nearly 2000 women in France accustomed to wear burqa.
I know little about France. But as far as I know, since adoption of 'Déclaration des droits de l'homme et du citoyen' many developments have happened in French legislative procedure, understanding of democracy etc.. Is it necessary to follow so called 'Rousseau's totalitarian democracy' when majority will is associated with infallible 'general will' that has to be imposed on all the nation (Napoleon demonstrated it very well when he wanted to regulate on what hours mother should nurse her infant)? I think it is more appropriate to learn democratic procedures from such well-known Frenchman as A.Tocqueville or J.B.Say.
I seriously doubt that nowadays woman in France have no possibility to protect her rights by herself against coercion when someone forces her to wear some particular kind of clothes. I have not heard, read or saw any information about the fact that any woman in France would have refused to show her face in a public places when some official asked her to do it for identification.
My understanding is that a statesman observes de minimis rule when he passes the law, i.e., law is not interested in regulating marginal, insignificant matters. And it is also well-established fact – to attract public support politician has to fascinate public with convincing debates how he is caring about the nation's general interests.
But is it really necessary to waste so much time and resources arguing about the topic that is already settled – woman can protect her rights against coercion when somebody forces her to wear some particular clothes: the burqa or whatever, and woman has to reveal her face for identification when official has a duty of asking her to comply with such a request?

The real problem comes when a non-muslim wants to wear something they normally wear at home in a muslim country. Just see how accommodating the muslims are then.

It's all one way with them. Everything has to be their way. The sooner the whole of Europe wakes up to the threat to European culture, the better it will be.

U.k is the only country that values peoples religion and cultures and freedom of expression.as a country it has many problems as other country`s have and it looks for solution not to waste times on debates on issues of what people should wear and not to wear its a shame on the FRENCH GOVERMENT/PUBLIC when they talk of french values and equality when they do not respect other traditions and culture values.