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NATO strike on Tripoli kills civilians
NATO air strikes killed nine civilians in the Arada neighbourhood of Tripoli, which is a known anti-Gaddafi stronghold, the regime said Sunday. The incident occurred a day after the government accused NATO of specifically targeting civilians.
By News Wires (text)
AFP - NATO said Sunday it was investigating Libyan claims that nine civilians, two of them of toddlers, were killed in an alliance air raid and would be "very sorry" if that were the case.
"NATO is looking into this matter," said spokesman Wing Commander Mike Bracken. "NATO was operating in Tripoli last night, conducting air strikes against a legitimate military target."
Libyan government spokesman Mussa Ibrahim told AFP that a NATO air strike on a residential district of Tripoli early on Sunday killed nine people, five of them from the same family, and wounded 18.
Earlier in the day, journalists had been shown the bodies of five people, one of them a woman and two of them toddlers.
"The other four people were killed as they passed by in front of the block of flats when the raid hit," Ibrahim said.
The NATO spokesman said in a statement that the military alliance took "all reports of civilian casualties seriously and we will continue to look into the allegations to determine their authenticity".
"NATO deeply regrets any civilian loss of life during this operation and would be very sorry if the review of this incident concluded it to be a NATO weapon," he added.
In Tripoli, Ibrahim accused the Western alliance of "deliberately targeting civilians," insisting there were no military targets anywhere near the residential neighbourhood of the capital that was hit.
If confirmed, these first established civilian deaths would be an embarrassment for the alliance which has been leading the bombing campaign under a UN mandate to protect civilians.
The incident too comes a day after NATO said its aircraft mistakenly hit a column of Libyan rebel forces in the area of Brega on June 16.
NATO's latest official operational update on the Libya campaign said that aircraft hit a surface-to-air missile storage facility in Tripoli on Saturday.
It listed the following hits in the vicinity of Tripoli -- one command and control facility, two military vehicle storage facilities, one rocket launcher, four artillery pieces and two surface-to-air missile launchers.
On Saturday, NATO said that after looking into reports that an airstrike hit opposition forces in the Brega region on Thursday, "NATO can now confirm that the vehicles hit were part of an opposition patrol".
"This incident occurred in an area of conflict between (Moamer) Kadhafi forces and opposition forces," a statement added.
"We regret any possible loss of life or injuries caused by this unfortunate incident," NATO said.
The statement said a column of military vehicles including tanks was observed in an area where Libyan strongman Kadhafi's forces had recently been operating.
"In a particularly complex and fluid battle scenario, it was assessed these vehicles were a threat to civilians and they were subsequently engaged by NATO aircraft."
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libya
loss of life is a serious thing and as such sorry can not make up for it.Nato probabbly has to find a better way of handling there airstrike situation or else it would be them we should be taking to the international criminal court
During WWI, less than 20% of
During WWI, less than 20% of casualties were civilians. During WWII, the percentage of civilian deaths was about 48%. By the 1990's, 80% of conflict deaths were civilian.
It is estimated that more than 2 million children perished as a result of war in the last decade of the 20th century, with over 6 million injured or permanently disabled. Current US military conflicts in Afghanistan and in Iraq, have also resulted in "a significant incidence of pediatric trauma."
Source for that data is the US military and Obama must have known how disingenuous it was to claim that the NATO attacks on Libya were being carried out to save civilians. What is the truth that we could not handle about this operation?
NATO murders civilians
OOPS! Looks like War Crimes against Soetoro/Obama, the US, the UN and NATO !
Lets not forget the lawsuits.
Who is the real terrorists, Obama or NATO ?
Hostility
Well, as long as nobody was showing any hostility, our kinetic military is in the clear, as is Obama. If there is no hostility, what are we spending $10 Million per day on?
Precisely why the West can't
Precisely why the West can't possibly win any war, anywhere. They can't tolerate collateral damage, which is precisely what war is all about if you actually want to be successful.
Libya
We shouldn't be there. We are not the saviors of the world. If the dismal sos Clinton wants us to be there she needs to send her daughter into harms way. I we required that there would be no wars of choice !!!!!!!.
Yup...
Just like Bush...when will people wake up and realize we have a one party system?
wrong targets
Can You say SEAL TEAM ? POTUS has trapped himself into a PC BOX using NATO. MAN UP and Assassinate . . . .errr save the People from Gaddafi.
Curious
Just wondering; where, exactly, have all of the war protestors gone?
Prize earning. .
Way to go Barry.
You show your gay illegal anti-american friends how you earned that Nobel Peace Prize!!!
. .uh. . . words uh. . uh. . fail you uh. . when you uh don't have your uh. . uh. . teleprompter uh. .around. . uh. .
Obama's 4 th war
I trust Obama will be arrested for murder now...
This war, run by a man with
This war, run by a man with an IQ of 160. According to Christy Matthews, a man much smarter than George W. Bush. My hairy butt. If this was GWB's war the, left would want him prosecuted and thrown in jail. By the time BHO is defeated, him and Holder should be tried together to save taxpayers money. They are definitely not friends of our citizens.
U.S. Leadership or lack of it
Good luck trying to get this White House to pay attention to this. Mr. Obama is too busy playing laughing and playing golf with the Speaker of the House.
We cannot help you anymore. We cannot help anyone. We cannot even help ourselves. Rest in peace, America.
Where are the War Protesters?
We have troops in 150 nations. We are fighting other people's wars all over this globe. We are broke and can't afford to continue this. Where are the War protesters that dogged Bush for nearly 8 years? What a bunch of hypocrites.
real eye opener on what NATO is doing in Libya
I was originally against Gaddafi but NATO is worse. U.N.-sponsored "Humanitarian War" have killed more than 1000 civilians.
USA, UK and France are getting closer to destroying decades of Libya infrastructure. What NATO is doing in Libya is "crimes against humanity".
Media coverage of Libya's war has been one sided and completely ignored what the majority of Libyans felt about their government.
Shocking, must watch this video from today, it is real eye opener on what NATO is doing in Libya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6AT5sCG6I
civilians
and how many civilians were killed in WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, etc????????
the veracity of all the
the veracity of all the claims and allegations in the articles.
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Taitz v Astrue motion to strike and grant default part 1
Taitz v Astrue Motion to strike and grant default part 2
DR. ORLY TAITZ ESQ
DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS FOUNDATION
29839 SANTA MARGARITA PKWY, STE 100
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PH. 949-683-5411 FAX 949-766-7603
ORLY.TAITZ@GMAIL.COM
orlytaitzESQ.com
06.19.2011
via certified mail return receipt
Mr. Eric Holder, ESQ
Attorney General
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave NW
Washington DC, DC 20530-0001
Open letter request for information under the Freedom of Information Act 5 US 552 and Presidential records Act and Presidential Executive order 13489, from January 21 2009
Dear Mr. Holder
Under the provisions of the Freedom of Information act 5 US §552 and Presidential Records Act, (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2207, I request access to the two certified copies of the long form birth certificate for Barack Obama, allegedly delivered to the White House by Mr. Obama’s attorney Judith Corley of Perkins Coie, and presented to the public on April 27, 2011, as genuine certified copies, by the prior White House counsel, Mr. Robert Bauer (of Perkins Coie as well). I request such access to be granted to me within 20 days as specified per Freedom of Information Act.
Ordinarily, I would have made such a request from the Archivist of the United States of America, however upon inauguration, on January 21, 2009, as one of his first decrees, Mr. Obama has modified the Presidential Records Act, by adding a requirement for the Attorney General to approve such release of records. (Executive order 13489, Amendment to the Presidential Records Act.) It appears, that Mr. Obama knew, that there is a problem with authenticity of his vital records and as one of his first orders of business, he added a layer of protection or a layer of stone walling on FOIA requests for presidential records, by adding a requirement of an approval by the Attorney General for release of information.
While I do not envy your predicament of being between a rock and a hard place and probably being torn between your loyalty to Mr. Obama and loyalty to the country, I would like to remind you a couple of things.
Please, be advised, that the issue of privacy is nonexistent in this case, as Mr. Obama has personally entered the document in question in Public record and public domain by posting it on the official web site of the White House , WhiteHouse.gov. At issue today is not the privacy, but authenticity , as attached documents, sworn affidavits and pleadings in my case Taitz v Astrue (Michael Astrue, commissioner of the Social Security Administration) show, that the document posted by Mr. Obama on Whitehouse.gov is a forgery. Additional exhibits in the complaint and motion to strike in Taitz v Astrue, 11-cv-402-RCL USDC District of Columbia, show that Connecticut social security number 042-68-4425, that is used by Mr. Obama today, while in the White House, in his tax returns, and used since around 1980 was never assigned to him. Attached exhibits also show fraud and forgery in Mr. Obama’s selective service certificate, educational records and other vital records.
Attorney General Holder, I would like to remind you, that you are not Mr. Obama’s private criminal defense attorney, but rather the top law enforcement official in the country. You are acting on behalf of “We, the people of the United States of America”, you are there to protect my rights, and the rights of each and every law abiding citizen of the United states of America against fraud, uttering of forged documents, elections fraud, Social Security fraud, usurpation of US presidency and treason. We, the people of the United States of America, demand that you do your job and stay true to your oath of office and not be complicit in aiding and abetting in commission of the above mentioned crimes.
Please, let me know, when can I and my forensic document expert visit the White House and examine the documents in question for authenticity. If request is not granted within 20 days, further action will be taken. It is my hope, that you will act in the interest of the citizens of the United States of America and will grant access to the above mentioned records.
Sincerely,
Dr. Orly Taitz ESQ
cc Congressman Darrell Issa
The mainstream press will
The mainstream press will ignore this just like they ignored it when Clinton killed a busload of civilians in Bosnia.
Libya
Obama has gone rogue in Libya
YES WE CAN!
YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!
Suspicious War
I am very suspicious of the motives for this war in Libya. After Kadhafi agreed several years ago to relinquish weapons of mass destruction, the US and NATO decide to attack. The lesson here for dictators is to pursue WMD to avoid future attacks.
Although I cannot imagine what it might be, I wonder if there is a hidden agenda here.
Libya
"NATO deeply regrets any civilian loss of life during this operation and would be very sorry if the review of this incident concluded it to be a NATO weapon."
That has got to make Libyans feel much better!
yet more civilians killed in Obamao's non war
Hey Libs. Howya like me NOW!..Howya like me NOW!
illegal
why the hell doesn't Congress demand it's Constitutionally-appointed war authority back? None of this has been approved by the People! Congress has failed it's constituents!
N ato A nswers T o O bama!
N ato
A nswers
T o
O bama!
We can't rid ourselves of
We can't rid ourselves of this guy soon enough, he is a wanna be
elite on your dime and so far he has succeeded. He has gotta go!
Obama that is.
Illegal War
Obama is violating the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution. Claiming that because the Libyans are not shooting back means this is not a war is ridiculous and ludicrous. So the President can bomb any country he wants and if they don't shoot back it's not war?!?!?
NATO used to be formidable
Today NATO is a joke. If the Warsaw Pact was intact they could roll all the way to the Loire.
Come on now...we all know
Come on now...we all know this is not a war. We are not involved and this isnt happening. This is what I've been told by fealess leader so I know it is true.
war
ya obamas war, shame on him
Obama War Criminal
Now it's official, this incompetent boob is now a war criminal. How do all you retarded liberals like your savior now. He has destroyed everything he touches, he has overspent us into oblivion, he has very nearly destroyed our country yet millions of idiots still adore him. Wake up, grow up and be rid of this cancer on our country. Legislatures grow a pair and find this Muslim/commie/liberal for what he is, ineligible to be president and remove him from office. At least with Biden we'll only have to put up with his hourly gaffs and not some intentional agenda to destroy us like with Obama.
Do u think Obummer gives a
Do u think Obummer gives a crap, his head is so far up Debbie Shultz's butt it unimportant. He's waiting for Mochell to go to Africa to spread the joy of being half black, and shovel down some ethnic food
Murder Charge
Bring Obama up on charges of murder for those nine lives.
Yeah, we'll get back with
Yeah, we'll get back with you...
obama is a terrorist
This blood is on his hands, underneath his golf gloved of course.
Ron Paul 2012, we need a real leader and real change.
Good thing
It's a good thing the original purpose of this operation was to protect innocent civilians. Wonder how many would be dead if that wasn't the original goal?
truth is coming out , Their Blood is Red Too.
As in the prelude to Iraq, it was the American White House who pushed, in the absence of any credible information on WMD for an Assault. The German Intelligence had warned them of the unreliability of one witness, the only witness, who this year admitted he lied. The CIA had told the WH in fact, there was no credible evidence even of a Terrorist meeting with a 9/11 terrorist and Iraqi Intelligence. The desire here, to invade this country, whether by drones, or proxies, or other matter, is based again contrary to what CIA director Gates advised, and even Their own Legal counsel advised, that it is illegal. Nato, now is waging a war, while they figure a way to re interpret laws, change, and justify after the illegal act.
The propaganda has been relentless, from viagra scares, also false, to mass rapes like kosovo. Yet we know, it was black African residents, workers, and merceneraries that were shot, burned, and hung by rebels. Atrocity by both both sides, certainly, but aggravated a thousand times more under Nato.
People who can still think, I hope, at elections, remove these horrible leaders, and begin the process of nation building here at our homes in America and Europe. If the people Italy can send a message to Berlusconi, as they did the other day..then we can do the same to the rest of them.
NATO = North American Treaty
NATO = North American Treaty Organization ≠ North African Treaty Organization.
What did they expect?
What did they expect? Especially if you are using drones. Can they tell who is or isn't a civilian?
"This action will last days,
"This action will last days, not weeks..." Barack Obama, a couple of months ago..
Lybia civilians
didn't nato (USA)bomb Gaddafi's compound last month and kill 3 of his grandchildren, all under 12 years old? How many grandchildren does he have left?
Civilian Deaths
First of all I'd like to say that I'm totally opposed to our involvement in Lybia, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
However, using civilian deaths as reason to get out is total b.s. We killed millions of civilians in World War II. War is Hell, and should be, lest we and they forget.
Not killing civilians is a means of prolonging wars, and is totally endorsed by the military/industrial complex. It means we have to use their very expensive pin-point weapons.
There is no one to blame but
There is no one to blame but O'bama.
But this isn't a war
Obama says so!
What if this was W's War
Well, first off, the Bloody Peace sign would become the symbol of his Presidency.
Next, we would see Code Pink in full force, and every Liberal Trust-Fund enclave would have all the Moon-Bats out protesting every day.
But Obama is President, this is his war, and the Left is saying "move along, Johnny. Nothing to see here...
NATO CIVILIAN KILLINGS
Kadaffi has no aircraft and still the frogs can't win against a third world ragtag military--Eurotrash all!~! now you know why Merkel wanted no part!
NATO acts are criminal
It is no where near enough to be "very sorry" and there are no legitimate targets NATO should be bombing. It is purely unprovoked agression by NATO and completely illegal.
I am a proud American but not proud of what is going on in Libya. I do not believe Gaddafi is a "good guy" per say but this is rediculous. Unprovoked attacks on a soveriegn nation should not be tolerated in this world and that is exactly what NATO is doing.
Easy to find bodies
Easy to find bodies to show journalists.
why are we there
Obama's election of 2008 was marked by his disapproval of Bush's two wars. Now he has started another. Is this winning the future or just another WTF....Read: Obama Chooses Politics ove Jobs...at.....
http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/
Not Hostile
This are inventions of the press and media. Obama told us these are not hostile actions, and Obama never lies.
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