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Top British police slam hiring of US gang crime expert

Top British police slam hiring of US gang crime expert

Britain’s most senior police officers on Sunday criticised the hiring of a US crime expert, William Bratton (pictured), citing the country's "fundamentally" different policing style, amid criticisms that their reaction to the riots was too timid.

By News Wires (text)
 

REUTERS - British police chiefs on Sunday hit back at Prime Minister David Cameron's plans to enlist a U.S. crime expert after last week's riots, as the conservative leader vowed "zero tolerance" against street violence.

Cameron, criticised by some in his party as being too liberal on crime and punishment, has taken a tough stance after four nights of looting and arson hit cities across England.
 
"We haven't talked the language of zero tolerance enough, but the message is getting through," Cameron said in an interview in the Sunday Telegraph.
 
The prime minister, who has suggested the initial police response to the riots was too timid, has enlisted former New York, Los Angeles and Boston police chief William Bratton to advise his coalition on how to tackle street gangs, which he blamed for much of the violence.
 
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But senior police officers, who have criticised the Conservative-led coalition's plans for police cuts, have reacted sceptically to the plan. "I am not sure I want to learn about gangs from an area of America that has 400 of them," Hugh Orde, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers, told the Independent on Sunday.

 
"It seems to me, if you've got 400 gangs, then you're not being very effective. If you look at the style of policing in the States, and their levels of violence, they are so fundamentally different from here," said Orde, a front runner for the position of head of London's police.
 
Cameron has dismissed suggestions that political and economic grievances lay behind the violence which killed five people, calling it "criminality pure and simple".
 
More than 2,800 people have been arrested and courts have worked around the clock and during the weekend to clear a third of those cases.
 
Two men, aged 17 and 26, were charged late Saturday with the murder of three Muslim men knocked down in Birmingham while trying to protect their communities.
 
About 20,000 people were due to attend a multi-faith peace march on Sunday in the central England city with the aim of keeping a lid on any potential racial tension.
 
Public unhappy with response
 
The riots have shocked Britons, many of whom are still asking why the mass disturbances occurred, and were allowed to spread so quickly from London to other major English cities with arsonists and looters seemingly taking over many streets with ease.
 
A ComRes poll for the Independent on Sunday and Sunday Mirror newspapers found only 29 percent of voters thought Cameron and his government had handled the riots well, while 48 percent were dissatisfied with the response.
 
The mass disturbances, the worst in decades, began in Tottenham, north London, after a demonstration against the police shooting of a suspect.
 
Most offenders are unemployed young men, though they have included a millionaire's daughter, a charity worker, a journalism student and a soldier.
 
The Liberal Democrats, the junior coalition partner, have been more restrained in their comments, and its deputy leader Simon Hughes, writing in the Observer newspaper, advised against "knee-jerk solutions including over-hasty moves to change the social contract and approaches to sentences".
 
Planned police cuts include reducing the national police budget by 20 percent, with the loss of about 16,000 officers, as the government deals with a record budget deficit.
 
Theresa May, the interior minister, said the planned cuts would go ahead. She told Sky News: "I know it is possible to make cuts in police budgets without affecting their ability to do the job the public want them to do."
 
Finance minister George Osborne told the BBC on Saturday that throwing money at the problem was not the answer, saying the country needed to tackle deep-seated social problems.
 
But the ComRes poll showed 70 percent of people thought the cuts should be immediately reversed.
 
Opinion polls during the past week have seen Britons calling for stronger police measures, including imposing curfews, being allowed to use water cannon and rubber bullets.
 
Cities were largely quiet on Friday and Saturday after police flooded the streets again to ensure weekend drinking did not reignite the rioting.
 
"What became clear was that although the Met had put more officers on the streets on Monday night that hadn't actually been sufficient," May told Sky News.
 
"The Met commissioner came forward with proposals, the prime minister and I were very clear about two things. We wanted to see a presence on the streets, we also wanted to see a tougher arrest policy, that has been followed through."
 
The government's police cuts have been questioned by Conservative Mayor of London Boris Johnson, less than year before the city hosts the Olympics.
 
"The general movement (of police numbers) has got to be static or at least upwards, and that is vital for policing in London," he told Sky.
IN PICTURES: BIRMINGHAM MOURNS RIOT VICTIMS
Family members are reminded of their loss every time they walk past the spot where Haroon Jahan, Shazad Ali, and Abdul Musavir were knocked down and killed by a hit-and-run driver during the Birmingham riots early Wednesday. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
The three men were killed as they protected the petrol station in the Winston Green area where they worked. In this picture, workers can be seen fixing the petrol station shop windows. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
The family of one of the victims lives in a modest house just around the corner from the petrol station. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
Pictures of the three men posted on lamppost at an impromptu street memorial. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
A man brings flowers to the memorial. Eye witnesses reported that the hit-and-run driver was black, sparking fears of racial retribution. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
Close-up of a message left at the memorial. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
A woman brings flowers to the memorial. Outrage at the killing has been felt across all communities. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
British youths join Friday prayers at a mosque located just 200 metres from where Haroon Jahan, Shazad Ali, and Abdul Musavir were killed. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
Community and religious leaders took the opportunity to urge them to not seek retribution against the black community. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
Listening to the religious leaders' sermon during Friday prayers. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
Muslims leaving the mosque (which is still under construction) after Friday prayers. Although the Winston Green neighbourhood is largely Pakistani, there are also several black people who worship at the mosque. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
Birmingham police were out in force in Winston Green as authorities feared that Friday prayers could degenerate into violence. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
Dozens of worshippers then walked to the impromptu memorial to pray for the dead. In this picture, the father of one of the slain, Tariq Jahan (striped polo shirt, white hair) can be seen joining the mourners. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
Tariq Jahan took part in a brief prayer before going home. The night before, he called for calm and urged communities to be united. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
Devastated friends and family members joined the prayer. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.
Police are still deployed in force in the Winston Green area to prevent further disturbances. © Mehdi Chebil/ FRANCE 24.

     

     

    Comments (3)

    keep this man away.

    the influence of america, its "values", cultural guilt and reactionary, populist and corrupt political system has already crept so far into UK culture as to be one of the root causes of the problems we now face! the british police are right, we should stop taking our lead from this morally bankrupt socety and deal with problems in our own, what was once, more thoughtful and inteligent manner. gang culture and the gang problem in the US is massive and constantly growing so why on earth would we bring in, as one officer has pointed out, an advisor from a country that has failed to successfully deal with the problem for more than twenty years!

    tp british police

    The British do not need advice from Americans, a country that imprisons more people than China. This is not a problem of gangs, this was a spontaneous responce in the only way the poor know to police brutality. I stood and watched police do nothing and laugh. The police were being political due to 20% police cuts.Children are being imprisoned for stealing a bottle of water while bankers and tax thieves buy homes in Barbados. Capitilism is not working and creating mass inequalities the like of which we have not seen since the 18th century.

    Morons

    These police chiefs are morons. They don't want to learn from a former American chief because the US has a lot of gangs? What sense does that make. If the US has a lot of gangs, then that mean their police are very experienced at combating them. The fact that there are many gangs in the US does not discredit their police force. Gangs are a social and cultural problem that cannot be solved by police. The job of the police is simply to combat them.

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