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Can bankrupt Greece take lessons from Argentinian default?

Can bankrupt Greece take lessons from Argentinian default?

In late 2001, faced with an astronomical public debt, Argentina announced that it would default. Standing at a similar crossroads, can Athens follow in the footsteps of Buenos Aires?

By Sébastian SEIBT (text)
 

In December 2001, Argentina announced that it could no longer honour its debts and the country went into default.

Ten years later, Greece finds itself facing the same situation. If it defaults, it will be the second country to go bankrupt since the start of the millennium.

Eurozone governments have stressed that an “Argentine scenario” for Greece is out of the question. On Sunday, French European Affairs Minister Jean Leonetti told France Info radio that Greece would “avoid default because it is in the interests of both the Greek state and the Greek people.”

But going into default, as the Argentinian case shows, is not necessarily a killer blow. In fact, the Argentinian economy rebounded after refusal to pay its creditors.

The decision “was probably the best thing the country could have done at the time,” said Christine Rifflart, an expert on Latin American economics at the Paris-based OFCE think tank.

What Greece has in common with Argentina

Back in 2001, Argentina was staring into much the same abyss as Athens is now, having accrued a colossal debt of some $132 billion. The country was surviving a hand-to-mouth existence on a drip feed from the International Monetary Fund.

And like in Greece, Argentina was forced to instigate severe austerity measures in order to continue to receive international aid.

Buenos Aires could not support its economy by printing more money, and ready cash was becoming more scarce because of capital flight resulting from the fact that the Peso was pegged at the time to the US dollar.

The crisis sparked violent social unrest as well as growing poverty.

Into the abyss

“It was the end of the established Argentinian economic model, a model that had been lauded by the IMF,” said Rifflart.

Once Argentina had decided to default, it decided in early 2002, after a period of ten years, to detach its currency from the US dollar.

Argentina’s economy went into meltdown. Watching the value of their currency collapse, Argentinians sought desperately to change their pesos for dollars, pushing the government to intervene.

As part of the government intervention, despite the currency’s collapse, bank accounts were converted from dollars into pesos with equal parity.

“A large section of Argentina, and particularly the middle classes, had their savings wiped out,” said Rifflart.

Argentina’s return to growth

And the default didn’t just affect savers. “The entire economy suffered a violent shock,” Rifflart said.

The GDP was down 5% in a year, unemployment rose from 15% in early 2001 to 24% at the end of 2002, with inflation running at 40% by the end of the same year.

“The country’s middle class had been effectively destroyed,” said Rifflart.

But after a year of increasingly precarious economic situation, the Argentinian economy started to pick up. “From 2003 unemployment started to go down [reaching a level of 10% in 2005],” she said. “The default had allowed the Argentinian government to create significant room for manoeuvre in the country's budget.”

From 2002 to 2004, Buenos Aires negotiated with its creditors – essentially pension funds as well as US and European banks – to restructure its debts. It was eventually able to bin some 60% of these debts. At the same time, exports started going up.

Rifflart explained: “The devaluation of the peso made Argentinian companies much more competitive on the international scene.”

Argentina’s experience might be food for thought for Athens – but not if other European countries have anything to do with it.

“Unlike Greece, the Argentinian default did not endanger an entire region’s economic stability,” said Rifflart.

Comments (8)

Greece

Sarkozy command to Merkel and the Merkel is help to the beggar Papandreu. And the Greek people eat again money for them dreams. And later Sarkozy thinking now with Carla, how can we receive the votes? With Armenian?

GLORIOUS GREECE SHOULD RISE AGAIN

TO ALL TRUE GREEKS ALL OVER THE WORLD..THE HELLENES NOT "HELLADITES" AS THEY NOW WANT TO BE CALLED THUS HAVING ERADICATED THE WORD THAT DISTINGUISHES THE CORRECT ETHNIC IDENTITY OF THE HELLENIC GENOS(YENOS) THE GREEK GENEALOGY.!GREECE IS LOVED AND TREASURED BY THE FRENCH AND STILL ADORED BY THE GERMANS..THE BRITISH AND AMERICANS ARE THE FOE OF THIS GODLY NATION AND GREECE'S ENEMIES SURROUND THIS LAND FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL. LOGIC IS PRODUCE OF THE GREEK "PNEVMA" AND THIS SHOULD BE APPLIED TO SEEK WHO OUR REAL FRIENDS ARE AND STRECH OUR ARMS AND EMBRACE THEM..SPEAK UP GREEKS..ORATION(RHETORIC)IS IS A GREEK DEVELOPEMENT FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME THEREFORE RAISE YOUR VOICE AND SPEAK..TEACH THE WORLD MORE KNOWLEDGE....

Greece: "The Wise Men of Gotham and their Goose".

No, I don't think so.Because there was no global economic turmoil,debt/deficit crisis of this magnitude in 2000s.Suggestion:-
go online,visualize the 1776 cartoon in the above story. imagine the entire map of the EU hanging on the background wall,plus the three sleeping tigers viz Germany/France/UK and rest of the
17 euro zone members as "The Men of Gotham", slaughtering the 'Goose' that laid the 'golden eggs'.May be this analogy helps in understand the 'Greek tragedy' better.Pl. try.

Bold initiative.

A smarter plan would be for the Greeks to knuckle down to some work, for a change, and pay their debts. This would be much more likely to happen if the Greeks would abandon the restrictive and corrupt practices that makes it too difficult for private enterprise to flourish.

No lessons to be learned

Argentina had an option to devaluate the peso, which was a prerequisite for reentering the market. Greece does not have that option, and hence we have two totally incompatible situations.

So is there a middle class

So is there a middle class now in Argentina? All the people who had saved all their lives for retirement only to see their retirement money wiped out - what happened to them? Retirement in poverty?

Argentine sad reality is quite different

Measured in hard currency, the default caused Argentina's GDP per capita to collapse by 60%. 10 years later, the GDP per capita is still 60% behind the average of Chile or Brazil. The Argentine GDP has grown, but never closed any of the created gap. That GDP gap is equivalent to $200bn per annum. Versus a one-off default gain of roughly $70bn. The default was disastrous for Argentina and they still pay a massive price for that ruinous, inept decision a decade later.

World Debt: The Solution

The problems with individual sovereign debt and the particular countries is a global one. A global problem should be addressed and answered globally, not with piecemeal attempts. There are too many countries in trouble and the numbers (the debts) are too big.

It might serve as a backdrop, a primer, if first people interested in solving the global problem of debt would acquaint themselves with "The Universal History of Numbers" that a conceptual understanding of what we are dealing with would be had.

The global economy needs to be rebooted. There is a way, and there is only one way. Since 1992 this writer has been advocated Global Debt Realignment. Global is the key word.

Global Debt Realignment would be a win-win for everyone. No one would lose. The countries of the world and their peoples would benefit. We would end this sad chapter of economic woe characterized by nothing more than inflicting more pain on individual people and countries.

Without outlining the whole program, which would include also realigning the world's currencies at the same time, this writer advocates mortgage realignment and governmental realignment to the lowest level. The ideal, of course, would be for everyone's debts to be realigned, but it has been difficult enough to get people to realize sovereign debt realignment, let alone thinking of the masses for them. I would realign everything. I would shuffle the deck. I would reboot it all.

The results would be outstanding. The lending institutions would not lose anything. The debtors would lose their debts.

Please refer to www.debtrealignment.com for the raison d'etre for this and for the outline.

Everyone is in this dilemma together. The global economy affects us all. It is expedient that we get involved and back a process that will bring progress and prosperity to the world instead of austerity, depression, stagnation.

It is up to us.

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