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Protest in Tahrir Square against military rule

Thousands of protesters gathered in Cairo's Tahrir Square on Friday where they urged their military rulers to transfer power to elected civilians and called for presidential elections to be held no later than April 2012.

By Kathryn STAPLEY (video)
News Wires (text)
 

REUTERS -  About 50,000 mainly Islamist protesters flocked to Cairo's Tahrir Square on Friday to press Egypt's military rulers to transfer power to elected civilians after the cabinet launched a move to exempt the army from parliamentary oversight.

The protesters chanted Islamic songs before Friday prayers while others handed out flyers demanding the withdrawal of the constitutional proposal and that presidential elections be held no later than April 2012, instead of at year end or in 2013.

"Does the government want to humiliate the people? The people revolted against Mubarak and they will revolt against the constitution they want to impose on us!" a member of an orthodox Islamic Salafi group cried out over loudspeakers.

"Down to military rule" and "No to making the army a state
above the state" were some of the chants echoing across Tahrir.

A military source said on Friday the army would hand power to a civilian government in 2012, without giving a exact date.

Except for the preponderance of bearded men and veiled women typical of strict Islamists, the mass rally recalled the 18-day, largely secular uprising centred in Tahrir that toppled autocratic President Hosni Mubarak on Feb. 11.

A parliamentary election set for Nov. 28 could be disrupted if political parties and the government fail to resolve a row over the proposal that would deny parliamentary oversight of the army, potentially allowing it to defy an elected government.

Over 39 political parties and groups said in a joint statement they would rally "to protect democracy and the transfer of power" after negotiations broke down between Islamist groups and the cabinet.

Deputy Prime Minister Ali al-Silmi showed a constitutional draft to political groups earlier this month which would give the army exclusive authority over its internal affairs and
budget.

Salafi parties and movements who follow strict Islamic teachings were the earliest to galvanise support for the Friday protest, with the Muslim Brotherhood and a number of liberal parties following suit.

Thousands of Salafi protesters arrived in Cairo from different parts of the country, many waving flags and singing the national anthem while youth groups guarded entrances to the square to prevent thugs from slipping through.

"We came by bus from the Nile Delta. We have been called to come and show our refusal of army rule and support of civilian rule," said Mohamed Ali, a member of the Salafi Al-Asalah party.

Anti-military rallies across Egypt

In the port city of Alexandria, thousands of Islamists and youth groups also held a rally and planned to head to a military base in a show of protest against the army.

"We went down to demand change but they removed Mubarak and brought the Field Marshal," protesters in Alexandria chanted, referring to Mubarak's former defence minister who now heads the military council that is supposed to guide Egypt to democracy.

Thousands also gathered in the Northern Sinai and Upper Egypt regions to protest but they called for an Islamic state, not a civilian state, the demand of protesters in the capital and Alexandria.

Despite Friday's street outcry against the army, many ordinary Egyptians feel their country needs the military command to preside firmly over the transitional period.

Despite the unified call against the ruling generals, Tahrir square was split between the Muslim Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party and their harder-line Salafi rivals, represented by several political parties.

The two set up separate sound stages and organised their own speeches and chants, only joining forces for Friday prayers.

"Our aims are one but there are differences between us as Islamist groups," said Abdullah Galil, a Salafi youth.

Liberal and leftist parties were also marching to Tahrir to take part in the rally. "There is no alternative but a return to the demands of the revolution which we must put back on track through a unified political voice," Mohamed Anis, co-founder of the liberal mainstream Justice Party, said.
 

Comments (11)

Tahrir Square

The overthrow of Mubarak does not seem to have been a positive.

Dilettante progressives

Where are the bennetton wearing mercedes driving dilettante progressives like the Yahoo VP who disapeared from the scene when his life was threatened by the hard line Islamists? The cloistered intellectual elites are never a match for the "true believers", and historically flee or are slaughtered when they oppose the zealots that they initially aligned themselves with.

Civilian Rule is Democracy

See...this is what has happened in Pakistan. The military rules above the civil government and it does not work. Granted...sometimes the civilian government makes raunchy decisions but it is less catastrophic that way. As a Hawk...even I know the dangers of having a military stand on it's own...it is dangerous.

Triangulation Works

Triangulation works because your side can gather more strength with more numbers to eventually succeed, and then triangulate with others to fight against the next most dangerous threat. This is also why the opponents of Barack Hussein Obama must unite to defeat him, otherwise, in my strong opinion, the U.S. will become a dictatorship, with Obama at the helm. Thanks for listening, 777denny

No Constitution and no secular state, eh?

'Just arrived dome from Cairo this week. I spoke with LOTS of people form all walks of life.

Most of them want a constitution. And most of them do NOT want a new ISsamic/Sharia society. And most of them agree that the only thing the so-called "Brotherhood" cares about is POWER, not religion. Any surprise then, that they are in the square, demanding no constitution and no military intervention if they seize power right away?

MOst of the sessile folks I spoke with warned me that the "Brotherhood" would be popping up on the radar in advance of the elections on the 28th. So no surprise they take the stage and get the
coverage from our stupid media. Don;t look for any diversity in opinions or messaging from them I think.

So if you have friends in Egypt, reach out and encourage them to stick by their secular instinct.

Salaam,

Walljasper

Tahir Square Problems - the Islamists Threat to Freedoms

The ultimate denigration of "democracy" is "mob rule" and the ultimate denigration of "mob rule" is when it is a "religious mob" and none is more abhorent to western civilization than an Islamist mob. Ok... Well that is the fruit of this "Arab Spring", i.e. the ascendency of Islamist theothugery. It's a terrible threat to western civilization. If you value your freedoms and the welfare of your female friends and relatives, this is nothing short of a major catastrophe in the making.

Good luck!

If any of the demonstrators think their actions will do any good, they are dumb as rocks. Any society that is based on the Koran is doomed to failure. Trouble is, before they eventually sink the society into the cesspool of history, they will do much damage to humankind worldwide.

Tahrir

Here goes Egypt.

Mullahs vs. Military

Short the military, go long on the mullahs. If you have money in Egyptian banks, convert it to dollars and buy a ticket to Switzerland as soon as you can.

"Meet the new boss same as

"Meet the new boss same as the old boss: we won't get fooled again... Oh No!" The Who

Civilian rule?

"Down to military rule" and "No to making the army a state
above the state" were some of the chants echoing across Tahrir. These Islamists want the very thing they're protesting, an Islamic state is the state.

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