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French police head to Britain to probe Alps murders
French detectives were on their way to London Friday in connection with the investigation into the brutal murder of four people in the Alps, including three members of a British-Iraqi family. FRANCE 24 covered the day's events.
By FRANCE 24 (text)
French and British investigators probing the killing of three members of a British-Iraqi family and a French cyclist on a secluded forest road near Annecy insist they will investigate every lead “meticulously”. Saad al-Hilli, aged 50, his wife Iqbal, 47, and a woman believed to be her 77-year-old mother were gunned down in their car on Wednesday while on a family holiday near Lake Annecy. Their two daughters, Zainab, 7, and Zeena, 4, survived the attack and have been placed under police protection. French cyclist Sylvain Mollier was also found shot dead near the family’s BMW.
Friday updates:
- Police confirm murder victims were members of al-Hilli family
- 25 bullets fired at victims, each one hit by at least three gunshots
- Brother of Saad al-Hilli firmly denies conflict with victim, police say
- Detectives hunt green 4x4 and motorbike seen by witness
- French detectives head to London
- Autopsy and DNA results due
- ex-RAF officer 'remains key witness'
- Four-year-old daughter to head back to UK shortly
18.15 - Prosecutor Eric Maillaud wraps up a press conference during which he frequently became frustrated at the nature of questioning by the press. He will have to go through it all again tomorrow afternoon when another conference is scheduled.
18.00 - Press conference Brother of murdered Saad al-Hilli will be questioned by French police as a witness, prosecutor says. One French detective has already arrived in London to liaise with Surrey police and three others are on their way.
18.00 - Press conference - Prosecutor speculates older girl was struck on head because attackers had run out of bullets.
17.45 Press conference - Prosecutor says each victim was hit by a number of bullets - one in the head and atleast two others in other parts of the body. A minimum of three per person. Autopsies began at 2pm local time and are due to be completed later tonight.
17.40 - Press conference - Prosecutor tells media that the brother of murdered Saad al Hilli has spoken to police and strenuously denied earlier press reports that he had been in conflict with his brother.
17.30 - Press conference - Prosecutor Eric Maillaud clearly frustrated with questions from media about investigation, insisting it is "confidential". To clear up reports of vehicles Maillaud said the chief witness, the British cyclist, said he saw a motorbike and a green 4x4, not a white one. But Maillaud admitted "everyone has a 4x4 in the Haute-Savoie" region of the Alps.
17.20 - Press conference - Elder sister Zainab, aged 7, remains in an artificially induced coma, prosecutor says. "We hope she will be able to tell us what she saw, the number of people, everything that can allow us to identify those who committed this crime," Maillaud said.
17.15 - Press conference - Prosecutor Eric Maillaud tells the media that four-year-old Zeena was already hiding beneath her mother's legs when the family were attacked. "She canot really bring anything to the enquiry. She's likely to go back to the UK shortly. We have to find some members of her family and our British friends are helping us with this," he said.
17.10 - Police confirm victims were Saad al-Hilli and his wife Iqbal, from Claygate in Surrey. The identity of the elderly lady, the third victim found in the car, has not been confirmed yet.
17.00 – More witness reports are emerging on Friday, in particular surrounding suspicious vehicles seen near the crime scene. Several media are carrying reports from a witness who claimed to have seen a Peugot 306 being driven erratically shortly after the estimated time of the murders.
“It was trying to overtake everyone even though traffic was light. Initially I thought it was two girls inside but when they passed me they looked weird and had weird hair as if they were wearing wigs. They acted like they were trying to get away. They seemed very nervous,” the witness said. Other witnesses reported seeing a white 4x4 driving away from the crime scene.
16.45 - Police still coming under fire for their handling of the crime scene and their failure to spot a four-year-old girl hiding in the car for eight hours. French gendarme Jacques Hébrard has defended his team's handling of the crime scene. See video:
16.10 – Prosecutor Eric Maillaud also tells FRANCE 24 he believes more than one person was behind the murders. “It seems humanly difficult that so many shots could be fired by one man. Instinct tells us there was more than one suspect,” Maillaud said.
16.00 - ‘Murders look like an ambush’ Prosecutor Eric Maillaud has once again been speaking to the media. He told local newspaper Le Dauphiné Liberé that the “case looks more and more like an ambush, and we are not yet sure if it was the work of a professional or whether the victims were targeted.” The prosecutor revealed that 25 shots had been fired at the victims rather than 15, as reported on Thursday. Le Dauphiné Liberé also says its sources have revealed the British authorities are putting “strong pressure” on French investigators.
15.15 - A piece in French paper Le Figaro sheds some light on how police are handling the questioning of four-year-old Zeena, who could yet remain a key witness. According to the Le Figaro two gendarmes, specially trained in questioning children, have the job of trying to solicit any information the traumatised child may hold. A translator is also helping them. “A four-year-old knows exactly what they saw and experienced. You just need to prepare the ground and it can take time,” a police source told Le Figaro. Her sister Zainab, who remains in hospital, is being guarded by armed police on a four-hour rotation, Le Figaro reports.
14.30 – The way the Alps murders have been reported in the British press has angered many expats living in France, who believe some of the reporting has been sensationalist. An article in the Daily Telegraph linking the murders to local gangs targeting British tourists in France did not go down too well with one British expat. Writing on the blog Survive France Network Suzanne Fitzgerald tried to put the record straight. “These articles are scare-mongering and likely to have a negative effect on both tourism in France and on the families of those of us who live or travel to France regularly,” she said. “It's tragic what has happened but there is NO EVIDENCE at the moment that gangs are targeting British Families in BMWs so I won't be changing my car.”
14.15 – Police have lifted the cordon and the dozens of journalists amassing near Chevaline have been allowed to visit the scene of the crime for the first time. BFMTV are showing images of journalists swarming around the 20 metre lay-by where the murders took place. Nicolas Baker at the scene told FRANCE 24 the only signs of the brutal killings “were smashed glass, some blood stains on the ground and markings where police had tried to construct a 3D image of the crime scene.”
14.00 – A detective from the Alpine town of Chambéry is on his way to Britain to liaise with police in Surrey, where murdered Saad al-Hilli lived with his family. A spokeswoman for Surrey police told FRANCE 24 the French prosecutors were leading the investigation and Surrey officers “are acting on their behalf”.
13.45 – A spokesman for the British Embassy in Paris has told FRANCE 24 that Ambassador Sir Peter Ricketts is leaving Annecy to return to the French capital this afternoon. Consular officials will remain with the two young girls Zainab, aged seven, and Zeena, aged 4, to take care of their welfare. Speaking to the BBC, Ambassador Ricketts said Zeena was "deeply shocked" but being cared for by consular staff. Her sister Zainab remains in hospital and consular staff will be with her as soon as it is "medically feasible", Ambassador Ricketts said. The Guardian newspaper has reported relatives of the two girls are on their way to the region.
13.20 – The key witness in the police investigation remains the British cyclist who discovered the gruesome murder scene on Wednesday, French TV channel M6 are reporting on Friday. Police sources have told M6 the witness, a former officer in Britain’s Royal Air Force, gave key descriptions of a scooter and a 4x4 vehicle both seen on the road leading to the secluded car park where the four victims were gunned down. “He kept a clear sense of observation. This could greatly help us,” a source close to the investigation told M6. Police have refused to name the witness and the media have seemingly been unable to track him down yet.
13.10 – Although police admitted they had no firm leads yesterday, they are clearly focusing today on the possibility the murders were the result of a family feud involving Saad al-Hilli, the driver of the car, and his brother. According to AFP, the brother presented himself for questioning at a British police station on Thursday to declare his innocence and cooperate with the investigation. The feud is believed to be linked to a family inheritance following the death of the two men’s father last year.(See post at 10.30)
12.50 - The local newspaper in Annecy, Le Dauphiné Liberé, has been looking into a theory put forward in Britain’s Daily Telegraph newspaper that the murders might be linked to two car-jackings in the region the night before. “According to what we have confirmed, this theory seems to be total fantasy”, the paper reports on their liveblog.
12.40 – Details of the nature of the shooting are still emerging. Various media outlets are quoting “sources close to the investigation” who say Saad al-Hilli, his wife Iqbal and her 77-year-old mother each received two gunshots to the head, strengthening the theory the murders were carried out by a professional hitman. This has not been confirmed officially by police. Witnesses say gunfire lasted less than 30 seconds, Britain’s Daily Mirror is reporting on Friday. On Thursday, however, police told the media no witnesses had reported hearing gunfire.
12.30 – Prosecutor Eric Maillaud is due to hold a press conference around 6 p.m. local time, where he is expected to confirm the identities and nationalities of the three family members found murdered in the car.
12.15 – Former Interior Minister Claude Gueant has criticised the police investigation into the Chevaline murders. Asked about the failure of officers to discover the four-year-old girl who was hiding in the car for eight hours, Gueant said it was a consequence of the “over-centralisation” of the inquiry. Locally-based gendarmes in the Alpine region of southwest France were ordered not to touch the crime scene until specialist forensics officers arrived from Paris, hence the eight-hour delay.
11.00 - Youngest survivor unable to help police further
Police had been hoping four-year-old Zeena, who was found after remaining hidden for eight hours in the footwell of the car underneath her mother's corpse, could shed some light on the murders.
But prosecutor Eric Maillaud told AFP on Friday she had been unable to add any further information. “She was questioned again last night, but without giving any more details. We have to be extremely careful about the declarations of a traumatised little girl,” he said.
Her older sister Zainab may hold further clues, but detectives may have to wait some time before they can question her. The seven-year-old remains in hospital in Grenoble after suffering a gunshot wound to the shoulder and a fractured skull as a result of blows to the head.
"She was operated on again; she is doing well," Maillaud said. "Her state of health is no longer causing much worry. She is out of danger."
10.30 - Police probe family feud theory
Police in France on Friday were investigating whether a family feud was at the heart of the brutal murder of four people in the Alps.
Prosecutor Eric Maillaud told AFP news agency on Friday they were looking into whether a financial dispute, possibly linked to inheritance, was the cause of the bloodshed.
“It seems there was a dispute about money. This seems to be credible information coming from the British police,” Maillaud told AFP.
“Every lead will be meticulously followed,” Maillaud said. But the prosecutor, who is leading the investigation, warned against jumping to conclusions, saying it was hard to imagine how a family feud could “pass from a financial dispute to a quadruple murder”.
Neighbours of the family, from Claygate, southwest of London, told British media that the Iraqi-born father Saad had expressed fears for his safety in recent weeks.
9.00 - Interior Minister defends police
France’s Interior Minister Manuel Valls defended the actions of his investigators on Friday, after they came under fire in the British media.
Police were heavily criticised for not discovering four-year-old Zeena for eight hours , despite 60 officers surrounding the crime scene.
“I will not partipiate in this unfair and unnecessary type of criticism. Investigators must continue their work and I think no fault has been committed,” Valls said.
8.00 - Autospy and DNA results due Friday
Prosecutors are hoping the autopsies, which are due to be carried out later on Friday, will give further clues in their help to catch the killer or killers. Three of the four victims were shot in the middle of the head, police revealed on Thursday, pointing to a possible professonal assassination.
Authorities are also waiting for the results of DNA testing from the British police before officially confirming the identities of the victims. The 77-year-old victim was confirmed as Swedish and police also found an Iraqi passport in the car. Police are expected to hold a press conference once the results are received.
Police will also continue to examine evidence from the crime scene, including the 15 bullet casings found scattered on the ground next to the family vehicle. They have still to determine whether the massacre was carried out by a lone shooter or several.
Investigators were also trying to track down a white 4x4 seen near the site of the murders.




























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just the way the muslims spread joy and happyness! that all!
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It may well be the focus of the french police is in the wrong place, what if it was the french cyclist that was the first to be murdered and the family were in the wrong place at the wrong time? This would explain the positioning of the car as the driver tried desperately to reverse and flee away from the scene on the narrow country road,also that the young girl wasn't also shot in the head. The gunman had used all of his fifteen bullets(semi auto pistol, probably 9mm) and tried to bludgeon her to death. So the cyclist must have been killed before the girl. Also this is a crime with local knowledge, how could an assasin know the familys' vacation plans which are often changed on a whym? A local cyclist whose habits are well known and much more predictable makes a hell of a lot more sense to me. The press hysteria surrounding the horror of the death of the family and the possible motivation for THEIR killing is helping mask the real facts I think by forcing the police to focus their investigation along those lines. J.W.
first thought that came to my mind...
I have seen this news yesterday on my favourite german news website and my first thought that came to my mind is strongly, that it could be possible that the police may be investigating in the wrong direction.
Yes, I have read that there was moneytrouble with the brother/family back in iraq and they took off for their holiday very sudden.
But I got a feeling that the cyclist (this 40+ year old man) could have really been the target of this and that the family accidently became victims...
Just my two cents, but may be worth looking also into this direction...
Finally I now know why this thought came to my mind. On off the street signs showed that the road is a dead-end-road (at least for cars as it looks). Why should he have gone this way with a car? But the cyclist may have been able to use this track (may be even scheduled?!?....